The Depression Discussions™

The Depression Discussions™: The Conversations Entrepreneurs Need to Have are a series of video interviews with exceptional individuals and experts focusing on living with – and working through – depression as an entrepreneur, creative, or intrapreneur.

These are conversations we need to keep having, not having solely when in a state of shock or grief after we lose a creative or entrepreneur like Anthony Bourdain, Kate Spade, Chris Cornell, Prince, George Michael, and SO many others.

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Interview #1 – Rich Gallagher, LMFT @gallagherPOC

Catherine Morgan interviews Rich Gallagher, LMFT for the first episode of The Depression Discussions™: The Conversations We Need to Keep Having. Rich is a licensed psychotherapist, while Catherine just plays one with her career transition and solo consultant clients. Rich shares what he has seen work for clients with depression and anxiety in his more than 10 years in practice.

Interview #2 – Jon-David @MafiaHairdresser

If you think social media is contributing to your depression, you may be right. In this episode of The Depression Discussions™, Catherine Morgan interviews author and social media expert Jon-David (@MafiaHairdresser) who works with clients and brands.

Jon-David shares his story about how spending time professionally and personally on social media contributed to his depression, and what steps you can take to have a better relationship with it.

Interview #3 – Barry Moltz @BarryMoltz

Small business expert Barry Moltz gets real about how a health diagnosis plunged him into a deep depression, losing 50 pounds and triggering thoughts of suicide. He talks about his journey back, and his strategies and habits for staying in a good head space. He also talks about navigating the inevitable ups and downs of being an entrepreneur.

Interview #4 – Phil Gerbyshak @PhilGerb

Phil Gerbyshak is beloved on social media, known as the guy with the huge smile. Phil’s brand is big, bold, and colorful. He candidly talks about his struggles in this interview. The comparison trap and imposter syndrome are huge issues for ALL entrepreneurs. Why is that person so far ahead of me? Why didn’t this work? Why is it taking so long? Can I actually do this? Phil shares how he works through the inevitable low points.

Interview #5 – Pamela Slim @PamSlim

Pamela Slim has been a coach for 25 years and an entrepreneur for 22 years, coaching thousands of small business owners and working with big brands. We talk about how there is no one right way to work, and that you may choose different “work modes” depending on your life situation. Pam stresses: “You have flexibility and there is no reason to have shame around decisions that you make about employment. You get to decide what you need to do for yourself and your family.”

Why Catherine Morgan started The Depression Discussions

Catherine Morgan has openly discussed her “mud-wrestling” with depression on her company’s website and on

The whisper for this project came during a very dark moment around Thanksgiving in 2014. Catherine published “Depression and the Small Business Owner” on | Business Unplugged and generated a deep and rich conversation throughout the entrepreneur community.

So many people admitted to struggling as well and thanked her for creating a safe place to share.

She even got several clients from this post due to the vulnerability she displayed, which helped others ask for the help they needed.

The call for this project came after Anthony Bourdain’s suicide in June 2018 when she completely lost her mind. It turned into this post “Compare and Despair: Entrepreneurs and Depression.”

Curated posts about working with and through depression

Catherine Morgan has been keeping a carefully curated list of posts and videos about depression and anxiety here on